Windows 10 and Jaws--What is Different?

Category: Geeks r Us

Post 1 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 8:38:27

Hello, all.

Recently, my brand-new Lenovo Pc, which is less than six months old began displaying a blue screen, after which the computer would initiate a restart. Knowing there was something wrong, I took it to my universities Help Desk, and they re-imaged the drive, preserving all of my files. Now, however, I have Windows 10 installed, which seems to be more responsive thus far, but was curious as to what has altered in Windows 10 compared with 8.1? Earlier in July, when Jaws support was lacking, I did venture and tried the operating system, but thought I would allow more time for any instabilities to be resolved. I noticed that the easiest and quickest method of getting to your files is through Windows Explorer, now renamed File Explore, but it is essentially the same. What is a jump list? Some of the settings almost seem more concealed than in 8.1 and are grouped into categories and then into subcategories. For example, whereas in 8.1, you could search for "Connect to a network", this is impossible in 10. Thanks for any explanations I receive pertaining to this topic and how 10 and Jaws work in conjunction with each other.
Sincerely,

Nathan Bullock

Post 2 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 10:23:49

You ask for a lot of explaining. Smile.
Windows is Windows.
A junk list is the same as it was in Windows 7.
Example, if you have opened up, or used several word files, the junk list keep a list of the last 10 you've used for faster access when you go to your word icon on your start.
How many is kept can be adjusted.
In 10, I've put things I do all the time either on my desktop, or task bar.
Example, I put documents shortcut, pictures, music, like that, so I don't need to go searching.
This has always been the method in any Windows for ease of using things.
I'll direct you to this article or set of them. It will help you.
2) David Bailes has written another very helpful Windows 10 Guide, The Task Bar 10 Guide. Though it mentions some JAWS-specific keystrokes and events, almost the entire contents can be helpful to users of other screen readers:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html
I find Windows 10 easy to use. You just need to apply what you already know and do a bit of looking around to locate things.

Post 3 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 13:54:06

Sorry about my type o. Just noticed.
It is correctly called the Jump list. Lol
Anyway, read the article.

Post 4 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 15:57:15

Wow, Wayne. I didn't know that even existed in 8.1? Thanks for your resources.

Post 5 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 16:58:10

What do you mean? I'm lost?

Post 6 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 17:05:31

The jump list.

Post 7 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 30-Jan-2016 17:52:57

Oh, okay. Smile.
It all started in Vista, but I don't think many remember that.
It is handy sometimes when working on a couple things.

Post 8 by sia fan bp (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 02-Aug-2016 17:32:51

thanks for the help, wayne

Post 9 by forereel (Just posting.) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2016 10:16:37

Remember all. Windows 10 will be updating on your systems anyday now.
Nothing to worry over. It should go smoothly.

Post 10 by sia fan bp (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2016 11:18:08

ok, are any of you angry that there is no save and send tab anymore? I mean, it was quick for me to just press the save and send tab and just type in the email of the person I wanted to send to. *screams in anger*

Post 11 by forereel (Just posting.) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2016 16:32:59

What client are you talking?
Outlook still has them.

Post 12 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 10-Aug-2016 19:50:27

Hi, are you referring to the mail recipient? It is still present. Windows 10 anniversary is already released, and the main improvement for users such as us is that Edge is finally accessible.

Post 13 by rongirl17 (Zone BBS Addict) on Thursday, 11-Aug-2016 7:50:23

hello the edge still has some problems. any one know when freedom is going to fix it?

Post 14 by forereel (Just posting.) on Thursday, 11-Aug-2016 8:06:09

The Edge is not a Jaws issue technically. Some things just aren't accessible.
Microsoft needs to make some changes to help screen readers see it.
If they will remains to be seen.
Right now we have several choices, so using the Edge isn't important.
Even for the sighted, it is a matter of if you like it or not, and it just now has more features some others have already had.
I'd like to note, the latest version of Jaws tells Windows what browser you are using, so that the Edge isn't selected by default for surches.
Example, if IE is set as your default, your surches will show in that browser.
For the best Windows 10 experience, if you use Jaws, you'll want the latest version.

Post 15 by forereel (Just posting.) on Thursday, 11-Aug-2016 9:17:34

Here is an interesting article and I'll be testing his views.
This comes from Flying blind.
He gives Microsofts screen reader number one spot. Jaws is last in his rankings.
Microsoft's screen reader is said to be working find with Edge, so if so, this gives that choice back, but I still don't guess it is important if you use Jaws.
If Microsoft's screen reader is truly better then Jaws, or NVDA, then we can keep our money in our pockets next upgrade time.
aAll of us will have a learning curve, but that be fine and in my opinion is a great step for Microsoft.
Now if it works in the work force is yet to be tested, and this reviewer does state it is his opinion.
Read on.

7A) A lot of information is available concerning the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10. First, this Cool Blind Tech article is worth a perusal: "Ranking Screen Readers in Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will Surprise You!"
https://www.coolblindtech.com/ranking-screen-readers-in-windows10-anniversary-update-the-results-will-surprise-you/

Post 16 by forereel (Just posting.) on Thursday, 18-Aug-2016 6:15:52

Now, this is the rebuttle to the last weeks article on the rating of screen readers.
I'll admit, I've still been lazy testing this, and I'm sort of just waiting on Microsoft to send me the upgrade. I'd like to see how the process goes, and sense Windows 10 as I have it now, is working beautifully, well, a man tends to be lazy about changing.
Laughing.
This comes from Flying Blind.
10A) Regarding the Windows 10 Anniversary Edition, Brian Hartgen takes some issue with the article mentioned last week which purported to rank performance of screen readers in the update:
http://www.hartgen-home.org/node/76

Post 17 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Friday, 19-Aug-2016 21:53:54

FYI, Windows10 is lousy! I do not like how it doesn't runs. And, I was told all the problems I was having would stop happening. I have to access files, and can't. I have some windowsXP stuff, and need to open it to call a friend. If I can't, I'll miss an important reunion.
And, whoever told me or anyone else that NVDA is 1: Easy, or 2: Almost Like JAWS, it's about as alike as cable TV and BlindyTV

Post 18 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Friday, 19-Aug-2016 22:26:24

If you're not too good at using technology to start with, I'm fairly sure that I said in an earlier post that it will take a lot of getting use to, as well as a lot of time and dedication. You also pretty much need to be running the latest in every single piece of software if you want to get the best performance possible. That being said, while NVDA has a lot of training tutorials and things, it's still not really even fully up to spec with windows 10 right now. There are a lot of issues. This does not apply only to NVDA, though. It applies to all screen readers. Microsoft though, is apparently partnering with most of the major screen reader companies to work on improving accessibility.

Post 19 by forereel (Just posting.) on Friday, 19-Aug-2016 23:04:40

I'll second that.
I will say that both Jaws and NVDA work well with Windows 10, but I'm not trying to access old files from XP.
If I new that was something I needed, I've have accessed them before I updated and put that information someplace I could get to it.
It is not a Windows 10 issue as to the reason you can't get that information, it is a user arror.

Post 20 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Monday, 22-Aug-2016 19:57:36

Question: Why won't blindy.tv run on windows10?
Blessings,
Sarah Missing my Star Trek!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post 21 by maddog (I'll have the last word, thank you!) on Tuesday, 23-Aug-2016 8:59:28

You might need to adjust certain settings in your web browser of choice. First, make sure that it's updated to the latest version, etc.

Post 22 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Friday, 26-Aug-2016 3:16:18

That, is my next hurdle. However, I think that will not be a problem. Thank you, for the suggestions!
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 23 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Friday, 26-Aug-2016 3:18:19

And, some of Windows10 is getting easier. Not much, but I'm getting it. I don't like this demo, however.
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 24 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Friday, 26-Aug-2016 15:16:43

Now, if only I could open my webmail.
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 25 by starfly (99956) on Saturday, 27-Aug-2016 0:22:34

I'm confused, while NVDA has its similarities, the way jaws and NVDA handle cursors is night and day. I'll give credit to NVDA , its now possible to use my touch pad on both my two and one and Del 4K screen laptop.

Post 26 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Saturday, 27-Aug-2016 0:51:40

I'm angry, because I have a load of BARD material, and can't access it. How in shit, do you open a thumb drive, when it doesn't even show?
My brother won't even help. I feel dumber than a box of rocks. Bill Gates, You totally suck, right now!

Post 27 by forereel (Just posting.) on Saturday, 27-Aug-2016 7:09:42

And you know you can simply get your bard stuff back.
Plus, you don't use it on your computer Sarah, you know that.
Maybe you are just complaining to complain?

Post 28 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Wednesday, 31-Aug-2016 1:53:51

No. It drives me batty, not knowing how to figure thingts out. Funny thingm, Apple is very good with their customers. Old Billy Gates, ain't got a clue.